Rangefinders

[victor]

Actually what is the real advantages of rangefinder. I find SLR have more advantages over the range finder leh. Some one did a comparision of EOS5D and Leica M8...image quality, the 5D wins hands down...especially at high ISO.

[hwchoy]

Choy!

Let's go shoot if you are interested. I can arrange a set for you. But if it's street photography you are looking at, I think the Voigtlander Bessa R4A seems to fit your requirements better as it as 21, 25, 38, 35 and 50 mm framelines.

Cheers,

when the travelling let up a bit

I saw quite a number of M3 and M4 selling between $500-800 at Peninsula.

[hwchoy]

Actually what is the real advantages of rangefinder. I find SLR have more advantages over the range finder leh. Some one did a comparision of EOS5D and Leica M8...image quality, the 5D wins hands down...especially at high ISO.

you can't compare the two, they are two different ways of approaching photography and the subjects. with RF you see more that what is in the frame, so you are more aware of the contextual situation and make the framing decision.

no wonder you weren't impressed by the bugger shooting with the M8 behind

[benny]

when the travelling let up a bit

I saw quite a number of M3 and M4 selling between $500-800 at Peninsula.

Leica too 'rich' for my blood. Entry level stuff like Voigtlander is more in touch with reality for me.

Anyway, let me know. I'm almost geared up already.

Cheers,

p.s. Michael doesn't seem interested. Too bad.

[hwchoy]

mikey only interested in manipulating models' legs.

[Michael]

Benny 

Basket, I was hoping to borrow some of your DSLR equipment. I love RF, but I'm unwilling to fork out $$ to get a RF. Also, I think film's great but the vexing wait to shoot finish the entire roll and process and scan and upload is really too tiring. Will probably stick with my 5D. If I really want to shoot film, I still have my EOS 30.

[jediforce4ever]

$800-500 for a M body is cheap.Where issit selling at?

[hwchoy]

the shop facing TCW.

[victor]

you can't compare the two, they are two different ways of approaching photography and the subjects. with RF you see more that what is in the frame, so you are more aware of the contextual situation and make the framing decision.

no wonder you weren't impressed by the bugger shooting with the M8 behind

SO what is the real advantange? It can't really shoot sports, cannot do macro, cannot zoom....humm???

[hwchoy]

it allows you to see the context in which your scene is contained and which affects how you might compose it.

[deadpoet]

it allows you to see the context in which your scene is contained and which affects how you might compose it.

The only advantage of the old school film rangefinder, I had a bunch on the "old" days, image quality of the lens aside, was the compactness, the near silent shutter, it was probably the first point and shoot .... but then I can do that with an old school film SLR also.

For nostalgia, I love to take an old Leica, Nikon, Bessa, Yaskika .... out for a spin.  But a spin is all it takes to tell me why they are all packed awasy.

Parallax error ... 

... hmmm ... my Rolleiflex with it's leaf shutter is quieter thought not as compact ...

At the end of the day, I doubt a range finder will improve your picture.  If your picture quality improves, it will have improved nmatter what kind of camera you used. 

Jumping back into film eh, well, I will, but only if you are diving into one of those zeiss lens, but then, that is another story.

[Michael]

RF nice for silent walkabout shooting.

[victor]

it allows you to see the context in which your scene is contained and which affects how you might compose it.

I lost you there.

[hwchoy]

I lost you there.

come for the RF outing and see for yourself.

[jediforce4ever]

It can't really shoot sports, cannot do macro, cannot zoom....humm???

well....it can definitely shoot sports, it CAN do macro....and zooming doesn't necessarily make your picture better....